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Live
Web Chat with Michael Grimaldi November 12, 2006 click: [7:05] Good evening and welcome to the Click Chat with charter member Mike Grimaldi. Mike is the author of the newest Zippo collecting book, And you thought Zippo only made lighters: A Collectors Guide to Other Products Made by Zippo Manufacturing Company released at the Zippo/Case International Swap Meet in July. Welcome Mike. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got started collecting Zippo products? rbdabberrb: [7:05] Hey Click, Hey Mike - we're already begun! kdsinc1: [7:06] Good evening kdsinc1: [7:06] well lets see beerbrandx: [7:06] hiya kd and click kdsinc1: [7:06] I've been a Zippo collector for over 12 years kdsinc1: [7:06] my collection has reached about 900 pieces so far kdsinc1: [7:07] and I just love being here click: [7:07] What made you decide to write the book? kdsinc1: [7:07] good question rbdabberrb: [7:07] and how many pieces are lighters and how many are non-lighters? kdsinc1: [7:07] the book I wrote was the one I was always hoping someone else would do click: [7:07] Is it a limited edition book? kdsinc1: [7:07] pretty much kdsinc1: [7:08] only 200 copies were printed kdsinc1: [7:08] oops kdsinc1: [7:08] 2000 click: [7:08] Does anyone have any questions for Mike? rbdabberrb: [7:08] Yes ;) zippocan: [7:08] hello and it's great to have you all online. Mike; about 30 years ago I got a ZIPPO tape that has an acrylic face encompassing a rose. Are these a standard release? kdsinc1: [7:08] it sounds like and Ultralite rule kdsinc1: [7:09] they were made during the 1980s kdsinc1: [7:09] and came with several designs rbdabberrb: [7:09] Do they make ultralite rules anymore, do you know? kdsinc1: [7:10] no, they were the last of the non-lighter Ultralite products to be discontinued kdsinc1: [7:10] and were removed from the catalog about 1990 kdsinc1: [7:10] exact date is in Volume II rbdabberrb: [7:10] Also, in your humble opinion, what piece will be the most collectible other than those produced for a short time? rbdabberrb: [7:11] Ah, okay, tease us with what is yet to come in Volume II!!!! kdsinc1: [7:11] I would say the rules and knives... kdsinc1: [7:11] they were produced the longest kdsinc1: [7:11] and still offered kdsinc1: [7:11] and have the most variety in imprints rbdabberrb: [7:12] Speaking of imprints, were any pieces produced using the Town & Country process? kdsinc1: [7:12] Volume II picks up 1980 and covers everything up to present day rbdabberrb: [7:12] Hi Len! camelmanlen: [7:12] Hi Robin & room click: [7:12] Hey there Len! kdsinc1: [7:12] personally I have three rules imprinted with T&C designs kdsinc1: [7:13] I have seen a knife, but that's about it zippocan: [7:13] To your knowledge is Zippo planning to introduce any new lighter based product. You know like the MPL rbdabberrb: [7:13] you're kidding me kdsinc1: [7:13] the Blu Flame is the next thing on the burner (pun intended) rbdabberrb: [7:14] Mike, what was the most enjoyable part of doing your book? Obviously, it was a long, long process, etc. camelmanlen: [7:14] The new hand warmers have been selling well for me kdsinc1: [7:15] as cliche as it sounds, it was meeting the people rbdabberrb: [7:15] We just bought a hand warmer at Smoky Mountain Knife Works Click Together; I don't think I'm allowed to use it! kdsinc1: [7:15] I have a handwarmer but have yet to use it camelmanlen: [7:15] You have to be up north robin kdsinc1: [7:16] I know an ice skater who is dying to try it rbdabberrb: [7:16] People with some great pieces it looks like by the pics in your book, ha! kdsinc1: [7:16] yes ... kdsinc1: [7:16] I saw some awesome collections.... kdsinc1: [7:16] was loaned some incredible pieces ... kdsinc1: [7:16] and swapped some great stories rbdabberrb: [7:17] did you swap any pieces?!?! kdsinc1: [7:17] it really was the personal connections I made that were priceless kdsinc1: [7:17] actually I did ... zippocan: [7:17] Wish I could hang around but duty calls. Thanks all. Catch you in the forums. kdsinc1: [7:17] one piece in particular .... rbdabberrb: [7:17] See ya Can! kdsinc1: [7:17] a Rockwell ZipLight camelmanlen: [7:17] That's the nicest part about collecting Mike click: [7:17] Good night zippocan kdsinc1: [7:17] I had to have it for a friend beerbrandx: [7:17] nighters can kdsinc1: [7:17] it really is rbdabberrb: [7:18] I think I'm familiar with it kdsinc1: [7:18] people you connect with are the best rbdabberrb: [7:18] Hey Fry! rbdabberrb: [7:18] I have a whole list of questions, so don't let me monopolize the conversation!! frybaby49: [7:18] Hi kdsinc1: [7:18] fire away click: [7:19] hi frybaby49! rbdabberrb: [7:19] What was the hardest section in your book complete? bummie: [7:19] Have any HD's (Harley Davidson) been produced on tapes, etc. ? frybaby49: [7:19] hello everyone lick: [7:19] hi frybaby49! rbdabberrb: [7:19] What was the hardest section in your book complete? bummie: [7:19] Have any HD's been produced on tapes, etc. ? frybaby49: [7:19] hello everyone kdsinc1: [7:19] hardest section ... camelmanlen: [7:19] Hi Fry kdsinc1: [7:19] the early stuff in general kdsinc1: [7:20] there is very little documentation, but most of it came from very reliable personal sources rbdabberrb: [7:20] That would make sense; trying to find documentation, folks who were "there" kdsinc1: [7:20] HD stuff... bummie: [7:20] Harley kdsinc1: [7:20] about 1996 there was an entire catalog of items kdsinc1: [7:20] some here and there ... rbdabberrb: [7:20] Ron... are you listening to this? Do you have any? kdsinc1: [7:20] but it exploded in '96 bald_guy: [7:20] knives and ink pens, HD’s? kdsinc1: [7:21] yep kdsinc1: [7:21] you'll see them in V2 kdsinc1: [7:21] ;-) bald_guy: [7:21] zip lites also kdsinc1: [7:21] how about a lossproof ZipLight kdsinc1: [7:21] uh huh bald_guy: [7:21] yes, kdsinc1: [7:21] it's a beauty rbdabberrb: [7:22] teaser teaser, okay, keep going, what else will be in Volume II; if it contains anything close to the wealth of info in Volume I - we can't wait! beerbrandx: [7:22] ? do those plastic clothes lines have any thing to do with the Zippo lighter company as I see they were not made by them rbdabberrb: [7:22] losssproof Ziplight? kdsinc1: [7:22] yes, Volume II is equal in content and tons more in photos kdsinc1: [7:22] it's roughly 40 pages longer camelmanlen: [7:23] Will you be doing a Zippo book cover lighter of that one also? kdsinc1: [7:23] no, the clothes lines and pins were no made by OUR company kdsinc1: [7:23] it is addressed in my book with photos kdsinc1: [7:23] they
were made in beerbrandx: [7:24] ty kdsinc1: [7:24] A Zippo with my book cover is in the works, but will not be offered for sale rbdabberrb: [7:24] but the zipper wax was produced for OUR company, right? kdsinc1: [7:24] yes it was beerbrandx: [7:24] ty kdsinc1: [7:24] as was Zirenn the lip balm rbdabberrb: [7:25] dag, need to toss those other items now... kdsinc1: [7:25] yah right bummie: [7:25] And the Contempo? rbdabberrb: [7:25] do you know what timeframe the lip balm and zipper were done? kdsinc1: [7:26] Contempos are butane lighters made during the 1980s kdsinc1: [7:26] I believe they were introduced in the late 40s ... rbdabberrb: [7:26] That's touched on in OUR book haha kdsinc1: [7:26] and according to a recent issue of Click magazine ... kdsinc1: [7:26] were offered right up until the 1990s rbdabberrb: [7:27] Hallow? "recent issue"..... zippolover: [7:27] Hi! I am new to collecting and have a question about the date stamps... should the stamp on the case match the one on the lighter? bummie: [7:27] Now all I need is a blue flame! rbdabberrb: [7:27] Len, do you have any non-lighter Camel pieces? camelmanlen: [7:27] not always kdsinc1: [7:27] no necessarily camelmanlen: [7:27] Many kdsinc1: [7:27] often times they match, but not always zippolover: [7:28] thanks very much :) kdsinc1: [7:28] I have a couple of Camel knives kdsinc1: [7:28] also borrowed an awesome one for V2 camelmanlen: [7:28] Sorry robin, I have a few Zippo Camel Products rbdabberrb: [7:29] If you get a lighter which has a "newer" insert in an "older" lighter, the insert was probably replaced. click: [7:29] rbdabberrb...your book - the first Warman's Zippo Field Guide is another great resource book! kdsinc1: [7:29] yes it is kdsinc1: [7:29] the photography ...WOW! camelmanlen: [7:29] Good info also rbdabberrb: [7:29] Thanks guys. rbdabberrb: [7:29] Camel knives? kdsinc1: [7:30] yes, ... rbdabberrb: [7:30] Can we send pictures on this chat? haha! kdsinc1: [7:30] a Cut-about with matching leather sheath... camelmanlen: [7:30] Yes. I think 2 were made kdsinc1: [7:30] a kinve with scissors rbdabberrb: [7:30] Wow, very collectible then! kdsinc1: [7:30] for the Camel GT Challange kdsinc1: [7:30] Camel and Harley have always tried other products produced by Zippo kdsinc1: [7:31] they're great customers rbdabberrb: [7:31] Mike, you said you had about 900 pieces; how much of your collection is non-lighter? camelmanlen: [7:31] You can say that again zippolover: [7:31] I bought some newer ones on eBay and received with an older but still new insert. kdsinc1: [7:31] roughly half kdsinc1: [7:31] that happens kdsinc1: [7:32] especially with brass lighters rbdabberrb: [7:32] Exactly zippolover: [7:32] does value go down? camelmanlen: [7:32] Why throw away a good insert just because the date is off rbdabberrb: [7:32] Mike, any plans for a book after Volume II? kdsinc1: [7:32] no the value stays the same kdsinc1: [7:33] next book ... kdsinc1: [7:33] actually yes rbdabberrb: [7:33] yes, len, that would be like throwing away a ziplight insert because it doesn't work anymore - NOT kdsinc1: [7:33] I have a few ideas... rbdabberrb: [7:33] and... they would be... kdsinc1: [7:33] some are in the works for a release next year kdsinc1: [7:33] some have been saved for "sometime before I die" kdsinc1: [7:33] lol rbdabberrb: [7:34] I hear ya HAHA kdsinc1: [7:34] titles are not being released as of yet ;-) zippolover: [7:34] Thanks again...bye rbdabberrb: [7:34] figures.... okay, we have some rules, knives, etc. kdsinc1: [7:34] uh huh rbdabberrb: [7:34] what do the rest of you have in the way of non-lighters? click: [7:34] Mike, one of my favorite non-lighter Zippo products is the Zippo Pill Box. When did they discontinue those? beerbrandx: [7:35] couple belt buckles here rbdabberrb: [7:35] okay! we only have one belt buckle. kdsinc1: [7:35] about 1989 rbdabberrb: [7:35] and only one pill box. kdsinc1: [7:35] Pill Boxes are interesting too ... click: [7:35] I'm on the hunt for a pretty pill box... kdsinc1: [7:35] because they were not popular when they were produced ... bummie: [7:36] Why so? kdsinc1: [7:36] but are among the most requested products to be reintroduced rbdabberrb: [7:36] interesting! click: [7:36] What price range should I expect to pay for one now? kdsinc1: [7:37] well, today collectors LOVE them ... kdsinc1: [7:37] so the price is kind of high these days ... kdsinc1: [7:37] any mint in box pill box sells for about $40+ beerbrandx: [7:37] another ? is that 10 lighter tin with all the Zippo info on it, was that made by Zippo rbdabberrb: [7:37] If you said this already, I'm sorry - what years were pill boxes produced? click: [7:37] Sounds like a good gift for Santa to bring me! kdsinc1: [7:37] I hope so Kathy kdsinc1: [7:38] yes, the tin was offered by Zippo during the 1990s kdsinc1: [7:38] it was one of the first things I bought for my collection bald_guy: [7:38] as was the collector book style case? kdsinc1: [7:38] pill boxes were made from about 1981 – 1989 kdsinc1: [7:39] yes bald guy the same idea kdsinc1: [7:39] did someone say belt buckles before rbdabberrb: [7:39] yupper kdsinc1: [7:39] aren't they awesome? beerbrandx: [7:40] ->has 2 rbdabberrb: [7:40] yes, was pleased today to fondle our The Studio one kdsinc1: [7:40] belt buckles became popular for ad companies in the 1980s... rbdabberrb: [7:40] we only have one; they are really kewl beans. kdsinc1: [7:40] before that they were almost all military rbdabberrb: [7:40] and discontinued about when, Mike? kdsinc1: [7:40] ooooo give me a second for that one rbdabberrb: [7:41] no problem; but like you say the main ones I see are military. bummie: [7:41] Must be in Vol2 beerbrandx: [7:41] mine are 2 navy beerbrandx: [7:41] newer with the print Zippo rbdabberrb: [7:42] kewl Beer. Post pics on the Forums ;-) kdsinc1: [7:42] I believe it was 2002 bald_guy: [7:42] I would think that pill boxes, tapes, zip lites, buckles, etc, would be more popular now for advertisers rbdabberrb: [7:42] wow, later than I would've thought then. kdsinc1: [7:42] yes, but they are expensive to produce rbdabberrb: [7:43] more so than lighters? bald_guy: [7:43] yes, suppose they would be more money kdsinc1: [7:43] no, but there's nothing like a Zippo lighter rbdabberrb: [7:43] good point, but anything that says Zippo on it would please most of us here kdsinc1: [7:44] true click: [7:44] Does anyone collect Zippo rules? kdsinc1: [7:44] I do! rbdabberrb: [7:44] which brings up another subject - any "new" non-lighter products being introduced? rbdabberrb: [7:44] Yes, we do! bald_guy: [7:45] I don't as a rule, pun intended kdsinc1: [7:45] but you do have a few don't you Ron beerbrandx: [7:45] still working on lighters here rbdabberrb: [7:45] As seen in Mike's book, there are some awesome advertising rules to be had. kdsinc1: [7:45] you'll get there beer bald_guy: [7:45] yes, i have a few in a salesman’s sample pack beerbrandx: [7:45] lol ya i know camelmanlen: [7:45] N=Me to ron kdsinc1: [7:45] cool kdsinc1: [7:46] new products ... kdsinc1: [7:46] the handwarmer, lighter display stand ... kdsinc1: [7:46] each year Zippo seems to bring out new things click: [7:46] now. camelmanlen: [7:46] you have to kdsinc1: [7:46] that's what makes this so much fun beerbrandx: [7:47] had a lot of cool stuff at the visitor center kdsinc1: [7:47] indeed click: [7:47] I mean...now the lighter stand is available at the ZCVC and online at Zippo.com. click: [7:47] Did anyone pick one up at the Swap Meet? kdsinc1: [7:48] they're neat kdsinc1: [7:48] and work perfectly beerbrandx: [7:48] na spent too much time in the sale tent kdsinc1: [7:48] how did you do? beerbrandx: [7:48] very happy click: [7:48] We're gearing up for the 75th Anniversary so there's plenty of non-lighter products coming for the celebration. kdsinc1: [7:48] I'm sure kdsinc1: [7:49] that should be something kdsinc1: [7:49] will these products be coming out during the year? beerbrandx: [7:49] faxed my order in for the 2 lighters fri click:
[7:49] Yes, some are available now at the kdsinc1: [7:50] great! kdsinc1: [7:50] I'll be faxing my order tomorrow morning too click: [7:50] Including a 75th Anniversary bar stool! kdsinc1: [7:50] imagine that rbdabberrb: [7:50] Got kicked off. beerbrandx: [7:51] wb click: [7:51] The 75th Anniversary Pilot run is beautiful...did you order that? bald_guy: [7:51] the bar stool ? Robin? beerbrandx: [7:51] yes and the slim kdsinc1: [7:51] I will be, it looks gorgeous rbdabberrb: [7:51] Ordered 10 of the magnetic lighter holders. so glad to see them available on line! rbdabberrb: [7:52] Mike, Kathy, will the lighter holders be available for imprint? countryron: [7:52] good evening everyone kdsinc1: [7:52] hi Ron beerbrandx: [7:52] hi ron rbdabberrb: [7:52] Hi Ron! click: [7:52] Great idea but not available imprinted at this time. bald_guy: [7:52] hey Ron click: [7:52] Hi Ron click: [7:52] I'll pass that idea on to promotional products! click: [7:53] We're test marketing them online right now so we'll see how you all like them. rbdabberrb: [7:53] One kinda weird question for Mike - will Volume II have the same cover? camelmanlen: [7:53] Will the battery insert for the Ziplight ever be available again? I have people asking where they can get them kdsinc1: [7:53] it's really a great product rbdabberrb: [7:53] We like 'em, we like 'em ;) kdsinc1: [7:53] good question and one addressed in V2... click: [7:53] We're test marketing them online right now so we'll see how you all like them. rbdabberrb: [7:53] One kinda weird question for Mike - will Volume II have the same cover? camelmanlen: [7:53] Will the battery insert for the Ziplight ever be available again? I have people asking where they can get them kdsinc1: [7:53] it's really a great product rbdabberrb: [7:53] We like 'em, we like 'em ;) kdsinc1: [7:54] the problems that led to the demise of the ZipLight .... kdsinc1: [7:54] have been addressed and fixed ... kdsinc1: [7:54] however ... rbdabberrb: [7:54] listening.. kdsinc1: [7:54] will Zippo actually go into producing them again ... kdsinc1: [7:54] there are no plans as of yet . rbdabberrb: [7:55] I wish they would; they're a really great "Zippo" product to get friends for presents. Everyone needs a flashlight in their pocket or purse. kdsinc1: [7:56] you never know rbdabberrb: [7:56] Will any non-lighter piece be produced for the 75th? camelmanlen: [7:56] I have a few of the inserts but they are all dead rbdabberrb: [7:56] (besides the bar stool, ha) click: [7:56] Yes rbdabberrb: [7:56] oh boy, tell us tell us click: [7:57] Mugs, pins, shot glasses, clothes, lighters, fa....ooops that one is a surprise, sorry can't tell! rbdabberrb: [7:57] Len, we have one that works, but it will cost you hehe rbdabberrb: [7:57] help, folks, what begins with "fa"..... kdsinc1: [7:58] actually it is not uncommon to find inserts still working, it was a great product bald_guy: [7:58] was there a topic in the forums discussing battery replacement for zip lites ? camelmanlen: [7:58] I think so kdsinc1: [7:58] yes and no ... kdsinc1: [7:58] some folks have rigged them to work .... kdsinc1: [7:58] but it is not recommended camelmanlen: [7:58] If you open one up there are 2 batteries inside bald_guy: [7:58] oh, jerry rigged em kdsinc1: [7:59] yep kdsinc1: [7:59] some claim to have had success... kdsinc1: [7:59] but I wouldn't try it camelmanlen: [7:59] and that green corrosion kdsinc1: [7:59] yeah, battery acid, ick bald_guy: [7:59] Mike, do you know the voltage of the lite? rbdabberrb: [7:59] Mike, before the live chat ends, just want to say thank you so much for the time and effort you put in to produce a book which really needed done - and you did it beautifully!! kdsinc1: [7:59] I have no idea, bummie? kdsinc1: [8:00] you're the engineer camelmanlen: [8:00] I agree Robin bald_guy: [8:00] I concur with Robin kdsinc1: [8:00] thank you everyone beerbrandx: [8:00] yep thanks much rbdabberrb: [8:00] where's bummie? kdsinc1: [8:00] I'm grateful for all the help I received from everyone countryron: [8:00] your welcome and I thank you also rbdabberrb: [8:00] green ick and all that.. bummie: [8:00] Thanks Mike! click: [8:00] Other than the Zippo/Case Visitors Center, where can members purchase your book? kdsinc1: [8:01] I have a web site which is the only other place to buy it now kdsinc1: [8:01] it is: kdsinc1: [8:01] www.ZippoProductsBook.com click: [8:01] Can they have it signed by you to make it more special and collectible? kdsinc1: [8:01] for a member of this club ... of course rbdabberrb: [8:02] and what a great "coffee table" book for a gift. Yes, we'll take another one, ha! kdsinc1: [8:02] just ask when placing an order rbdabberrb: [8:03] Good night, all - and THANK YOU for joining in this chat and THANKS Mike and THANKS Click! camelmanlen: [8:03] Bye Robin kdsinc1: [8:03] thank you all for coming beerbrandx: [8:03] thanks everyone and niters click: [8:03] Thanks Mike. bald_guy: [8:03] yes, thank you Mike and Kathy kdsinc1: [8:03] see you in the forums click: [8:04] We look forward to another chat with you in the future! camelmanlen: [8:04] Bye Mine Thanks for your time tonight click: [8:04] Thank you everyone for joining us! kdsinc1: [8:04] thank you Len, we'll be talking real soon bummie: [8:04] Great book. Great Content. Great author!!! kdsinc1: [8:04] great help along the way countryron: [8:05] Sorry I showed up so late countryron: [8:05] wish I had got here sooner kdsinc1: [8:05] no problem, glad you came by bald_guy: [8:05] gotta go, look for some zip lites,, lol kdsinc1: [8:05] good luck countryron: [8:05] and thanks for opening this evening kdsinc1: [8:05] we'll be back again soon camelmanlen: [8:05] here Kathy? bald_guy: [8:05] ok, bye now kdsinc1: [8:06] goodnight click: [8:06] goodnight camelmanlen: [8:06] Kathy, will this chat be posted somewhere? click: [8:07] Yes len, I'll get it posted in the forums under Live Chat tomorrow. camelmanlen: [8:07] Thanks
2nd
Live
Web Chat with Michael Grimaldi February 25, 2007
Welcome
to our first chat of the year. Today, we’re
chatting with Mike Grimaldi who is a Zippo collector, As reviewed in Click magazine, Mike's book: "And you thought Zippo only made lighters. A Collectors Guide to the Other Products Made by Zippo Manufacturing Company” focuses on all of the non-lighter products Zippo has produced during their rich 75-year history. Mike
will now field your questions regarding Zippo's many non-lighter
product lines, his first book, and what we can expect from the second
volume slated for release this summer in click: [12:09] Mike, thanks for coming back for another chat. andyzip: [12:09] It is about 6 pm over here, nice time to take part kdsinc1:
[12:09] It's my pleasure. I'm fine, happy to see so many
friends from arthurdent: [12:10] so is the book gonna be ready for the 75th Mike? ;) kdsinc1: [12:10] I believe so ... camelmanlen: [12:10] great kdsinc1: [12:10] It's currently going through final revisions and if I do say so myself ...looks awesome! click: [12:10] I know we've sold many of your books at the Zippo/Case Visitors Center and online too. kdsinc1: [12:11] I've received a lot of positive feedback on it so far arthurdent: [12:11] good to hear click: [12:11] What categories are in the new book. rbdabberrb: [12:11] I don't have Vol 1 in front of me, so what years will Vol 2 cover? glenhopkins: [12:11] Mike, can you give us some idea of the products it will cover? andyzip: [12:11] Can t wait to read it, took me only one weekend to finish Vol 1 kdsinc1: [12:11] Vol. II begins at 1980 and covers the catalogs right up to 2007! bald_guy: [12:12] cool !!! kdsinc1: [12:12] lots of now discontinued products arthurdent: [12:12] such as? kdsinc1: [12:12] Well a favorite is the 13" ruler garywhyman: [12:12] Surprise! I made it! Welcome everyone who's already here! kdsinc1:
[12:13] welcome click:
[12:13] camelmanlen:
[12:13] hi arthurdent:
[12:13] garywhyman: [12:13] Plans change! Sometimes for the better! Good to be here. Good afternoon everyone! kdsinc1: [12:13] anyone familiar with this product? rbdabberrb: [12:13] 13" ruler.. same as the rule we're used to seeing? kdsinc1: [12:13] no, not at all rbdabberrb: [12:13] oh dear andyzip: [12:14] some info on the z twin knife too I hope kdsinc1: [12:14] the Z-Twin is covered in detail ... glenhopkins: [12:14] Never seen a 13" rule here kdsinc1: [12:14] and includes photos of the prototype for it kdsinc1: [12:14] the 13" rule was only in production for about 6 months garywhyman: [12:15] Why such a short production run? camelmanlen: [12:15] what year? arthurdent: [12:15] folding or reel type rule? andyzip: [12:15] so another hard to find one on my wishlist rbdabberrb: [12:15] shorter production time than the zip-a-part.. kdsinc1: [12:15] 1981, straight type kdsinc1: [12:15] flat, about 1.5" wide arthurdent: [12:15] 13"...how odd... kdsinc1: [12:15] yeah it is kind of an odd measurement arthurdent:
[12:16] must be a kdsinc1: [12:16] a very useful ruler though kdsinc1: [12:16] dead on straight rbdabberrb: [12:16] useful? are you crazy?! it's a collectible ;-) kdsinc1: [12:16] sturdy kdsinc1: [12:16] but it had one little flaw andyzip: [12:16] how about NEVER reased inventions from Zippo kdsinc1: [12:17] which you will read about rbdabberrb: [12:17] go ahead... flaw... spill it please kdsinc1: [12:17] :-) garywhyman: [12:17] He's such a tease... kdsinc1: [12:17] yes, there are some interesting prototypes that never made it into production kdsinc1: [12:17] some funky ideas kdsinc1: [12:18] I was able to get a few snapshots of these as well kdsinc1: [12:18] of course Pill boxes... kdsinc1: [12:18] ultralite knives andyzip: [12:18] and you know we will buy Vol 2 we just hate to wait until we can learn a lot more kdsinc1: [12:18] writing instruments kdsinc1: [12:18] all covered hengilinov: [12:18] Hi everyone that I didn't say hi to, I am back..sorry for interrupting kdsinc1: [12:19] hello Henry arthurdent: [12:19] cool kdsinc1: [12:19] well I hope you will buy a copy, more so though, that you will love it click: [12:19] Mike, what inspired you to collect non-lighter Zippo products and how did you gain all your knowledge about them to write two books? kdsinc1: [12:19] I am a Zippo collector rbdabberrb: [12:19] Mike, I have a question - there is a card included in the ZipLight 1st production run for employees. Does the inside of the card have any printing on it? kdsinc1: [12:20] whatever the company has made, I am interested in andyzip: [12:20] how about a section of flint dispenser variations kdsinc1: [12:20] Knowledge was gained by intense research with quite a few folks who were willing to share what they knew with me kdsinc1: [12:21] I'm very fortunate to have met so many wonderful people along the way kdsinc1: [12:21] ZipLight...the paper inside simply asked employees to use the product ... then fill out a questionare a few weeks later glenhopkins: [12:21] Mike, Any Idea of the last production date for the Ziplight?, I picked up an "E-01" Boxed with matching insert this week. garywhyman: [12:22] Will we ever hear the details about the flint wheels that had "Z I P P O" engraved/stamped on them? kdsinc1: [12:22] the last ZipLights were offered in ...2001 rbdabberrb: [12:22] Do you know what I mean? The card, yes, you can read that, but I'm asking if the card opens up, if you were to take it out of the original packaging. andyzip: [12:22] robin, just have a look at my website, there is a pic of the ZipLight sheet rbdabberrb: [12:23] duh. I should've known. Thanks. kdsinc1: [12:23] so in theory a ZipLight dated L 01 would be among the last bald_guy: [12:23] 6 years and some of them still have good batteries,, amazing kdsinc1: [12:24] I have an H 01 pictured in the book glenhopkins: [12:24] Thanks for that - Looks like I should pair it up with the first 2001 kdsinc1: [12:24] great idea glenhopkins: [12:24] There is a tobacconist near me who still has one for sale!! camelmanlen: [12:24] I have a ziplight in front of me from 1996 and it still works kdsinc1: [12:24] flint dispensers kdsinc1: [12:24] I did not cover these as I thought they were more lighter related, have not seen many though kdsinc1: [12:25] imprinted ones that is kdsinc1: [12:25] oh yeah, I would love to see more of them kdsinc1: [12:25] and as for the Z I P P O kdsinc1: [12:25] who knows bald_guy: [12:25] think I have two Harley zip lites andyzip: [12:26] are you talking about a third book idea kdsinc1: [12:26] yes, it is amazing that some of the ZipLights from 10 years ago still work bald_guy: [12:26] and I think one of those is a loss proof kdsinc1: [12:26] there is a third book that I have just started glenhopkins: [12:26] 3rd!!!!? kdsinc1: [12:27] the loss proof HD ZipLight is very cool andyzip: [12:27] guess there is quiet some more material you could write about a lot kdsinc1: [12:27] yes a 3rd, but I am not ready to reveal the details just yet kdsinc1: [12:27] it is Zippo related, but not this stuff kdsinc1: [12:27] Vol. II should wrap the non-lighter stuff up andyzip: [12:28] so you always keep us waiting Mike... kdsinc1: [12:28] so speaking of ZipLights ... hengilinov: [12:28] Mike, what can you tell about those Zippo marbles (glass balls), I saw them on ebay, didnt win it, but they looked pretty cool kdsinc1: [12:28] anyone notice any differences between the inserts? rbdabberrb: [12:28] Mike G just went to Mike T(ease) glenhopkins: [12:28] What about the Constant light, I see a lot on Ebay as "Discontinued" - is it still in production? kdsinc1: [12:28] lol glenhopkins: [12:28] Yep - there are two inserts glenhopkins: [12:29] One with a brass strip - one without kdsinc1: [12:29] marbles are a Zippo promotion, glenhopkins: [12:29] The later one is overstamped with two dates? kdsinc1: [12:29] like coffee mugs or t-shirts kdsinc1: [12:29] Well the metal strip is part of the major differences.The earlier inserts were hand assembled. The later were sealed and machine assembled. Interestly, the hand made ones lasted longer rbdabberrb: [12:30] One more question about the ZipLight 1st production run - is there any way to get that darned packaging open without ripping it to shreds? kdsinc1: [12:31] I would take a razor blade and carefully slice the plastic just enough to get at it. kdsinc1: [12:31] constant light...it has been discontinued from the catalog. I do not know why andyzip: [12:31] the 6in1 constant light is hard to find with company advertising but I liked the idea a lot, especially for the easy changeable batteries. kdsinc1: [12:32] you will read in Vol. II that the constant light essentially replaced the ZipLight glenhopkins: [12:32] Thanks - I think it's a great product kdsinc1:
[12:32] but I am still after rbdabberrb: [12:32] YES YES YES bald_guy: [12:32] i concur kdsinc1: [12:32] he is being reluctant rbdabberrb: [12:33] I can't count the folks who have seen ours and said they'd love to get some for their children, for gifts, etc. kdsinc1: [12:33] actually according to salesman ...the ZipLight is the second most requested product to bring back into production glenhopkins: [12:33] If it could be adapted to take a standard AAA battery, then it would be a winner andyzip: [12:33] and the first one... rbdabberrb: [12:33] I'll be dagged. What's the first? kdsinc1: [12:34] pill box kdsinc1: [12:34] well again in the book ...it is explained why the ZipLight was dropped click: [12:34] Send your letters of request for new products to our Consumer Relations Department! rbdabberrb: [12:34] Thanks, Click - will do! click: [12:34] Consumer Relations gathers information about requests, problems, etc. and takes them to the folks that need to know. hengilinov: [12:34] Oh man, why would a pill box be so popular after what happened to Anna Nicole kdsinc1: [12:35] well I think Anna had a lot more going on than that click: [12:35] I'd like to see the Pill box again...in pretty pink colors! I'll write the first letter! andyzip: [12:35] candy pvd pill boxes would be cool kdsinc1: [12:35] it was a great product, although not very popular when in the catalog rbdabberrb: [12:35] LOL - you could even save on postage ;-) kdsinc1: [12:36] that is why examples today are kind of hard to find rbdabberrb: [12:36] Mike, what is your personal favorite item/section in Vol 2? kdsinc1: [12:36] hmmmm andyzip: [12:36] I once saw a pill box display on ebay for an enormous amount kdsinc1: [12:37] I would have to say the Ultralite knives kdsinc1: [12:37] I saw that one too rbdabberrb: [12:37] Does everyone here own a pill box? kdsinc1: [12:37] they were made during the 1980s kdsinc1: [12:37] simple, yet classy arthurdent: [12:37] just one so far Robin rbdabberrb: [12:37] Will look forward to reading about the knives! hengilinov: [12:37] I own the pills but not the box, so will have to look into that Robin bald_guy: [12:37] no pill box here, don't think andyzip: [12:38] yes, I got one ultralite, some hpc and bc glenhopkins: [12:38] 3 here rbdabberrb: [12:38] we only have one, too, but it's a double sided trucking advertiser! kdsinc1: [12:38] I have a few too rbdabberrb: [12:38] Ron, look under your couch, I'm sure you have one somewhere. bald_guy: [12:38] lol kdsinc1: [12:38] still looking for one for Kathy glenhopkins: [12:38] Black, Maroon and Brused chrome - Would love to find an Ad andyzip: [12:38] the well know RX desing is my favourite kdsinc1: [12:38] yes, that is a classic arthurdent: [12:38] got a construction coy advert here kdsinc1: [12:39] it is amazing how many different advertisers there are kdsinc1: [12:39] I mean really what does a construction company have to do with medication andyzip: [12:39] but I guess not as much as in the ruler section... arthurdent: [12:39] other than induce the headaches! kdsinc1: [12:39]ah yeah glenhopkins: [12:39] LOL rbdabberrb: [12:40] exactly! kdsinc1: [12:40] well you know how those contractors are :-) arthurdent: [12:40] darn straight Mike! camelmanlen: [12:40] did zippo ever make a hand warmer before the ones that are out now? arthurdent: [12:40] hahaha kdsinc1:
[12:40] they never produced them but ...there was a prototype andyzip:
[12:40] there were some available in camelmanlen: [12:41] Yes kdsinc1: [12:41] yes, it is not like the one being offered but ...it shows that the idea was there years ago kdsinc1: [12:41] has anyone tried the new one yet? camelmanlen: [12:41] They work great and sell well rbdabberrb: [12:41] New pill box? kdsinc1: [12:42] hand warmer click: [12:42] Yes...I hope!!! arthurdent: [12:42] still need to get one myself... click: [12:42] Pill box that is ; ) rbdabberrb: [12:42] We have a hand warmer, but Dana won't let me take it out of the box. kdsinc1: [12:42] why not? rbdabberrb: [12:42] Silly, it's a collectible! camelmanlen: [12:43] robin, you need to buy another one to use kdsinc1: [12:43] that's why we buy two! rbdabberrb: [12:43] I know.. I know.. kdsinc1: [12:43] Len can hook you up rbdabberrb: [12:44] Yes, there are a couple nice things in the 2007 catalog! kdsinc1: [12:44] what is your favorite rbdabberrb: [12:44] Also, want to ask if anyone who has a Zip-A-Part keychain has broken it when they tried to pull it apart. rbdabberrb: [12:45] too numerous to mention! kdsinc1: [12:45] almost garywhyman: [12:45] The 2007 Catalog just about hurt me! kdsinc1: [12:45] the Zip-A-Part has two weak spots kdsinc1: [12:45] the little hooks on the ends might not break, but will open up and the inside wire spring, these springs are very fragile kdsinc1: [12:46] and since these are worth $100+ rbdabberrb: [12:46] Welp, that answered that question. We'll just admire.. kdsinc1: [12:46] it might be better to use one of Zippo's other models kdsinc1: [12:47] the key holders work great rbdabberrb: [12:47] Mike, can you tell us approximately how many pics will be in Vol II? kdsinc1: [12:47] Good question. Vol. I had over 650 I believe. Vol. II has over 750!!! and 50 additional pages rbdabberrb: [12:48] Fabulous kdsinc1: [12:48] it was quite a project kdsinc1: [12:48] got some great salesman samples rbdabberrb: [12:48] you're killing us kdsinc1: [12:49] tons of advertisers andyzip: [12:49] and some prototypes to we guess kdsinc1: [12:49] and well over a dozen pill boxes kdsinc1: [12:49] yep, got some of those too kdsinc1: [12:50] has anyone ever seen a Zip-Chute? andyzip: [12:50] a what... kdsinc1: [12:50] this will tell us who has been to the ZCVC garywhyman: [12:50] Mike, could you say that your sources of actual items lies more with people who worked at Zippo, or avid (lucky) collectors? kdsinc1:
[12:50] a bit of both kdsinc1: [12:50] collectors had the great pieces, employees had the information . . . it was a perfect balance hengilinov: [12:50] whats a zip-chute? andyzip: [12:51] if I only could be a Zippo employee garywhyman: [12:51] I've been to the ZCVC maybe 15, maybe 20 times.... and I have to beg stupidity... What's a Zip-chute? kdsinc1: [12:51] ok, the ZipChute was a prototype product kdsinc1: [12:51] it is a small parachute attached to a golf ball kdsinc1: [12:52] the idea was to practice hitting the golf ball without having to retrieve it from a couple hundred yards away kdsinc1: [12:52] ball is hit, takes off andyzip: [12:52] and I have seen one on ebay years back and thought is was not Zippo at all kdsinc1: [12:52] chute opens and drops it close arthurdent: [12:52] if I didn't know better I'd say your were pulling our legs kdsinc1: [12:53] not at all kdsinc1: [12:53] I knew of two in existence but ...have recently heard of a few more kdsinc1: [12:53] so you never know they may turn up for sale someday andyzip: [12:53] maybe the one on ebay was a fake though kdsinc1: [12:54] the one pictured in Vol. II has a mock-up box rbdabberrb: [12:54] We'll see the Zip-Chute in Vol II/ kdsinc1: [12:54] maybe, I guess it would depend on who was selling it kdsinc1: [12:54] yep, box and all kdsinc1:
[12:54] and get this ...it's a kdsinc1:
[12:55] got a few pages on andyzip: [12:55] how about Contempos in Vol 2 arthurdent: [12:55] cool rbdabberrb: [12:55] nice! kdsinc1: [12:55] left out the Contempos too, sorry, they fell under lighters rbdabberrb: [12:56] naw, they're lighters. kdsinc1: [12:56] besides I think Robin covered them didn't she? click: [12:57] ...and Robin, when are you and Dana going to write your volume 2? kdsinc1:
[12:57] good question andyzip: [12:57] yes, interesting question click rbdabberrb: [12:57] So, Mike, your book is in its final stages, you're starting on a 3rd - what else do you have in the works? kdsinc1: [12:57] don't avoid the question arthurdent: [12:58] Robin! hahaha click: [12:58] For those new collectors that joined us, Dana and Robin Baumgartner are authors of Zippo's first "Warman's Field Guide" released last year. kdsinc1:
[12:58] a great resource andyzip: [12:58] and fantastic pictures arthurdent: [12:58] indeed it is kdsinc1: [12:59] the best rbdabberrb: [12:59] (Dana's hollaring from across the house "Robin, answer the question") kdsinc1: [12:59] lol click: [12:59] well???? hengilinov: [12:59] gotta give that to them, A+ indeed garywhyman: [12:59] Do you realize how challenging it is to do 'filing' while reading these lines and laughing....? rbdabberrb: [12:59] Ah, thank you so much for the kind words. We enjoyed it, as Mike is enjoying his projects. click:
[1:00] I'm still on the edge of my seat andyzip: [1:00] I would love to see a book filled with Zippo ads from 1933 up to 2007 kdsinc1: [1:00] I heard that is in the works by another Click member rbdabberrb: [1:01] It is??? andyzip: [1:01] tell us more kdsinc1: [1:01] well a few members are currently working on projects which I can't wait for rbdabberrb: [1:01] now WE can't either and we don't even know what we're waiting on, ha! kdsinc1: [1:01] there is one of Zippo advertising kdsinc1:
[1:02] another on Zippo garywhyman: [1:02] I would love to see an article in the Click about the WGI Zippos. There are some amazing lighters out there that no one but Zippo execs, guests, and special friends can attest to. Peggy? Kathy? kdsinc1: [1:02] and the idea is still floating around for a book on Slims kdsinc1:
[1:02] great idea andyzip: [1:02] another great resource for dating Zippo design releases click:
[1:03] That's a great article idea kdsinc1: [1:03] she should andyzip:
[1:04] click, the christmas cards and displays on kdsinc1: [1:04] indeed, really enjoyed seeing those as well click: [1:04] Thank you so much Mike for joining us for the live chat today. We're looking forward to the release of your new volume two and the new one (you still didn't tell us about ye :)) kdsinc1: [1:05] well if all goes good, you will know about it this summer rbdabberrb: [1:05] Thanks Mike! Thanks Zippo Click! click: [1:05] Thank you everyone for joining us today. It's always fun to Click Together whether in a live chat or in person. glenhopkins: [1:05] Yes, Thanks mike + Click - especially for the timing andyzip: [1:05] thanks for all the info on your Vol 2 Mike, have a great sunday... garywhyman: [1:05] To all... thanks for the chat. It was stimulating! :o) Especially Thanks to Mike, Kathy, and Robin & Dana. kdsinc1: [1:05] It was my pleasure rbdabberrb: [1:05] Happy Birthday Andy! arthurdent: [1:05] cheers Mike kdsinc1: [1:05] thank you Click for the opportunity andyzip: [1:06] thanks Robin !!!! kdsinc1: [1:06] is it today Andy? click: [1:06] My pleasure - this is a great way to spend a Sunday ...with all of you. Thank you all. rbdabberrb: [1:06] (Dana, get off the computer now and get to work on that next book!) camelmanlen: [1:06] nice chatting with everyone click: [1:06] Happy birthday Andy!
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